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Ian's avatar
Jan 14Edited

If something does happen within 6 weeks, I think the pro-democratic side of the country will ultimately win. Here's why.

1. Unlike Hungary and other countries that quickly fell under authoritarian rule, the US has been a democracy for 250 years, and that is ingrained into our culture. Resisting tyrants and kings is in our blood.

2. Trump has had almost a year to turn the US into an authoritarian nightmare with him as it's god-emperor... and he's failed. He's inflicted a lot of damage, yes, but we'll still a democracy, and the public and our institutions are still fighting back against him, and winning. Not all the time (the fascists in the Supreme Court have given him several big wins), but pushback has made him and his administration back down more often than you'd think (giving up on keeping the national guard in several cities, giving in to demand to bring back people sent to that El Salvadorian hellhole prison, not trying to get Jimmy Kimmel back off the air after the public forced Disney to bring him back etc.).

3. Trump is not a popular president. He still has massive support from his cult, but they're a minority, and more and more of his non-fanatical supporters are speaking out against him. Authoritarian leaders can only stay in power when they have massive public support, which Trump does not have, and as the cost of everything - especially healthcare - continues to rise, more and more people will turn against him. Independents are abandoning him in droves, Democrats won over 90% of special elections last year, and we're seeing Republicans in Congress defying Trump more and more, as well as an increasing number choosing to retire or not run for re-election; if Trump was as powerful as he and his followers said he is, they would obey his every command and enact every policy he wanted. That's not happened, and is probably never going to happen.

4. Career politicians and CEO's only believe in two things: Money and self-preservation. When they realize that Trump is about to sink/implode/whatever, and that the public hates the man so much that they want to see his tongue ripped out on live TV, they'll turn against Trump to save their own hides and careers. There will still be a handful of evil people and organizations who want to impose an authoritarian government, but they'll be in the minority. Heck, even oil companies are telling Trump, "Nah, dude, setting up operations in Venezuela is a bad investment."

5. From what I've heard, the military - especially the highest ranking generals - don't like Trump and especially don't like the clown that is Pete Hegseth, and especially don't like the idea of having to go to war with Denmark, Mexico, Greenland, and whatever place catches Trump's eye. I can't say for sure, but if I had to make an educated guess, I'd say that if the military was forced to choose between this administration and the public, the military would side with the public.

6. In case it hasn't been clear, the majority of people in the US hate Trump with a passion. We're seeing the biggest protests in US history under his watch, and if this majority realizes they have a chance to get rid of the mango monster once and for all, it's reasonable to assume they'll take it. And when faced with a public that is so f***ing sick of Trump and his supporters, and a military that's on their side, the few who support Trump in government will quickly back down, if only to save their own lives.

With all that said, there's no denying that this may well be the worst state the US has been in since the Civil War. Things are really bad, but I think that while we're approaching critical mass, there are a lot more reasons to be realistically optimistic than you'd think, and history shows that when the US goes through awful periods, they're followed by a surge in progressive policies and changes in society that ultimately leaves everyone better off... except for, you know, hate-filled fascists.

Also, Michael, have you ever been to Political Optimism on Reddit? That site has single-handily saved my sanity during the past year, and it may help you out as well.

Matt Rouge's avatar

I'm not exactly sure about the timing, but I think he's about to be deposed by the military. I think the he will order them to cross the Rubicon, in effect, and they will refuse, and he will go ballistic, start ranting at and commanding at senior brass in a clearly unwell way, and they will be forced to take him into "protective custody." Whether this will happen the "easy way" (with members of his cabinet going along, invoking the 25th, etc., and the GOP in general falling in line) or the "hard way" (the opposite of that, resulting in a manifest ending of the Republic as we knew it), remains to be seen. Should the military agree to attacking a NATO member, we will have an instant civil war in the US, and they know it, so I don't think it will go that route. But yes, this can't go on for much longer at all.

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